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    Nice little article, hits the nail on the head...

    couldn't have been said better.



    (CNN) -- For the world to tackle truly important problems, people have to stop looking to religion to guide their moral compasses, the philosopher Sam Harris told CNN.

    "We should be talking about real problems, like nuclear proliferation and genocide and poverty and the crisis in education," Harris said in a recent interview at the TED Conference in Long Beach, California. TED is a nonprofit group dedicated to "ideas worth spreading."

    "These are issues which tremendous swings in human well-being depend on. And it's not at the center of our moral concern."

    Religion causes people to fixate on issues of less moral importance, said Harris, a well-known secularist, philosopher and neuroscientist who is the author of the books "The End of Faith" and "Letter to a Christian Nation."

    "Religion has convinced us that there's something else entirely other than concerns about suffering. There's concerns about what God wants, there's concerns about what's going to happen in the afterlife," he said.

    "And, therefore, we talk about things like gay marriage as if it's the greatest problem of the 21st century. We even have a liberal president who ostensibly is against gay marriage because his faith tells him it's an abomination.

    "It's completely insane."

    Watch Harris' talk at the TED Conference

    Harris also said people should not be afraid to declare that certain acts are right and others are wrong. A person who would spill battery acid on a girl for trying to learn to read, for instance, he said, is objectively wrong by scientific standards.

    "It's not our job to not judge it and say, 'Well, to each his own. Everyone has to work out their own strategy for human fulfillment.' That's just not true," he said.

    "There's people who are wrong about human fulfillment."

    Harris placed no faith in the idea that Muslims and Christians will be able to put their differences aside and cooperate on global issues.

    "There's no way to reconcile Islam with Christianity," he said. "This difference of opinion admits of compromise as much as a coin toss does."

    Philosopher: Why we should ditch religion - CNN.com

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    Re: Nice little article, hits the nail on the head...

    Isn't am Harris a guy that is classified as an atheist, yet believes in Buddism?
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    Re: Nice little article, hits the nail on the head...

    I don't know about believing in it, but he's big on the meditation part and loosely uses atheism...the "by definition" type. I think very highly of Buddhism though, it lacks the bloodiness of Christianity and Islam, it's done a lot more positives than negatives unlike ones like those 2. And Buddha's teachings are what I like to live by, it's the same thing really Jesus taught, but promotes free-thought and free-will - perfect combination.

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    Re: Nice little article, hits the nail on the head...

    Philosopher: Why we should ditch religion - CNN.com

    Lets say even if there was a "Law" that said no one in the USA can practice religion of any kind.. For those of us with faith, you can't take that away. For those of us that have God in our hearts, you can't take that away. I have often heard the saying that you can take my body but you can't take my soul. Now I know that a lot of posters on here do not believe in God but I do. I don't ask you to skirt around any thing and never say that there isn't a God because if you don't believe then that is you, but for me, I believe. I am not at all going to say you are stupid or ignorant and I think the same courtesy should be applied (not saying that anyone has said these things, I'm just sayin').. So, enjoy the rest of your Palm Sunday!

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    Re: Nice little article, hits the nail on the head...

    Who are all of these people? I know of 3, me and buckeye are agnostics and I think biggin is an atheist, maybe agnostic...but I could be wrong. It's a pretty religious board. I don't think he's calling for a law, but that if people just dropped religion, the world would be a better place. And that it would do a lot of good here in the US too, so that we could focus on real issues and not ones that have been blown up solely because of religion...but really aren't problems at all. I haven't ever said 'there isn't a God", I don't know and while I think there probably isn't, I can never say for certain. I just wish the other side would have that same mentality, because they don't know either - that wasn't towards you, jsut in general.

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    Re: Nice little article, hits the nail on the head...

    You 3 are enough to be a bunch LOL!! (Just kiddin)..when you say that you can't say whether or not there is a God, that is where my faith comes in. I fully believe there is a God.
    I know he isn't calling for a law I was basically saying "what if".. There are just somethings you can't take from people so not having a religious USA really wouldn't help because you can't take a person's religion or beliefs away from them.

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    Re: Nice little article, hits the nail on the head...

    I'd never support taking religion away from anyone, I agree with you, but there's some things I'd like to see change. I'd like to see more open-mindedness, in schools, laws and especially parents with their children - now there's 2 that can actually be changed, but the last is up to the parents. It's still looked down on to question your religion, there was a poll that said atheists are the least trusted group in America, it's ridiculous. There's so much misinformation and refusal to take a look at the other side it's ridiculous, I'm confident that if things were laid out and questioning was more widely accepted, there would be a lot less religion/Christianity in America. It's more accepted over the past 20+ years and in that 20 years, Christianity has dropped 10% and atheists/agnostics have more than doubled.

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